Treatment Bound

Is there a person frequenting PDD who actually saw the Replacements play Duluth ? I saw the Suburbs play here twice (1986 and 1987, I believe) But I, a very big ‘Mats fan from my Duluth high-school influences, never saw the band live. I’ve seen Paul in Minneapolis, but he has yet to play Duluth.

Why do I bring this up? Because Wilco, which has covered the Replacements “Color Me Impressed” numerous times since 1997, and cites the Replacements as an influence, are a Chicago band coming to Duluth for the third time.

So why the hell can we not book Paul Westerberg? And did the Replacements ever play Duluth?

We all can talk about supporting local talent and wanting great acts to play Duluth, but why the hell do we not get the Minneapolis acts that have gone national and are influences to the acts we do attract?

38 Comments

Ginger Suicide

about 10 years ago

I never saw the Replacements play Duluth, but I have seen them play the Twin Cities a couple times.  I have also seen Mr. Westerberg solo.  I saw the Suburbs a couple handfuls of times from Duluth to the Twin Cities.

My favorite Replacements live song was Hootenanny.  I believe the last time I saw them live was at the Roy in or around May of 1989.  I could be off a month or two.

Husker Du were also a favorite back in the day...

Purple

about 10 years ago

Lucinda Williams, who was scheduled to perform in Duluth twice (her second concert might have been canceled) also worked with & was influenced by Paul Westerberg.

Girl From The North Country

about 10 years ago

I saw the Replacements play at The Warehouse in Duluth in 1984 or 1985.  The first time I ever saw a mosh pit.  Paul was super drunk.

Also saw the Suburbs at The Cove and Beej was playing with a pineapple top sticking out of his mouth!

Swan

about 10 years ago

I missed the Mat's duluth debut at Saint's Roller Rink but saw every show afterward (The Warehouse Bar, Kirby Ballroom). Saw them warm up for a new band REM in 1982/3 on Harriet Island St. Paul as well as at the U of M Whole Union, 7th st Entry and First Avenue. I have a bootleg board tape and/ or live KUMD broadcast of the UMD show somewhere in storage.  

Great quality vintage videos circa 1981 from 7th st. Entry by Squirrelbait on YouTube. 

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBh5ZtATqOY

The Suburbs played Duluth frequently and saw nearly every show at UMD, Norshor, Mr. Pete's, the Cove (?) It was a blurry time but what a great live band.

Huskers played Duluth a few times and saw every show as well as at the main U, First Ave and as second bill for a Dead Kennedys show at the Minneapolis Armory circa 1985.

Christopher Mars did a meet and great at the Fetus Duluth years ago when I worked there. He signed my "Stink" ep and wrote "we sure did" on the cover. 

All three bands were and still are great. Been thinking about all of them more as they pop up on my Pandora Radio mixes.

mrashley

about 10 years ago

By all accounts the Replacements played the Twin Ports often, although most accounts I have heard/read had them here mostly during the early part of their career.  According to wiki Paul hurt his hand in 2008 and hasn't toured much because of it.  Anyways, where would he play?  Too small for the DECC, too cool for a pizza place.

ToWaRd

about 10 years ago

I was at the Warehouse show, thanks to Randy Jorgensen, who opened my eyes to the "other" music available to us. I'd never seen anything like it, and was truly amazed to see them on SNL a few weeks later. Possibly the most infamous performance ever on that show. The audacity to show up drunk for a nationally broadcasted show. It's worth a YouTube look.

baci

about 10 years ago

I'm here to testify with Swan..I was at many of those shows as well. First time for me was Kirby Ballroom...Mats opening for the Suburbs, tommy stinson's fingers bled all over the floor. I agree with Swan, he was blurry..or was that me? 'Mats side note .. not really "side" but I remember the day when I came in to my Emerson apartment to see my roommate, Monty Lee "Major" Wilkes, tossing all his socks with holes in them in the trash .."I just got hired as the Replacements sound guy"..I guess the job required fresh socks. He went on to even greater infamy.

Bret

about 10 years ago

I saw the 'Burbs several times in St. Paul (I didn't make it to Duluth until 1999) and have been a 'Mats fans for a quarter of a century or so.  I hope Paul heals up and does a solo gig up here soon!  By the way, I saw Bob Mould at First Ave a week or so ago and he was in fine Husker mode (my aging ears still ring - I saw him 25 years ago at 7th Street Entry right after Workbook came out and it was him, a stool, and an accountic guitar, this on the other hand was the old power trio).  He played several Husker Du songs.  It was interesting to watch Grant Hart, who was at a table right behind me.  I wonder what's still up with that.

Paul Lundgren

about 10 years ago

Here's a related PDD post from four years ago:

http://archive.perfectduluthday.com/2005/07/keep-your-riches-gimme-budweiser.html

Tony D.

about 10 years ago

Swan, if I remember correctly, the warehouse show was another of the 'mats very drunken performances, hardly finished a song they started. And wasn't Loud Fast Rules up here before the became Soul Asylum, or was that the Blue Hippos? The after party was at your (Robin's) place at 1318 e. 2nd (r.i.p.), and I remember Bob Mould was there even though the Husker's did not play that night, and we had to wrestle a spoon away from some guy from Mpls. who wanted to cook heroin on your stove. Ah, Duluth in the mid 80s--that's where all my brain cells went.

Swan

about 10 years ago

For those who were there and for those who missed it, there is great, well researched book on the 1980's American Indie scene by Michael Azzerad titled "Our Band Could be Your Life: Scenes from the American Indie Underground, 1981-1991". Chapters on Husker Du, the Replacements and many more. My face and cheeks hurt from laughter after reading the chapter on the Butthole Surfers.

 Brilliant.

When the Replacements' "Let It Be" was nominated as one of the best albums of the 1980's Jon Bon Jovi quipped "Who the hell are these guys?" That is exactly why they were so great.

Swan

about 10 years ago

Tony,

After parties. Yes, there were many after parties... Very fuzzy and remember having Soul Asylum, Blue Hippos et al over as well as very drunk and coked-up Bobby Stinson in my living room on time. 

I remember the Replacements on Saturday Night Live, it was cold as hell, they were drunk, Westerberg swore something to the effect of "play it motherfucker" on LIVE television to Bob and they all swapped clothing on their second performance. Hurray for the hometown team.

R. Berler

about 10 years ago

They played on SNL on January 18, 1986, they they played at the Warehouse on February 1, 1986.

Swan

about 10 years ago

Thanks Heatwave.

wildgoose

about 10 years ago

I totally agree with the premise.  Although I (barely) missed the 80s twin cities - Duluth music heyday, graduating high school in 1990, I vaguely remember people talking about them, T-shirts and hairstyles of that era around town.  So yes, if we can, let's get the Suburbs, Bob Mould, Paul Westerberg, and whomever up here ... I'd love that.  And I think there are a number of places -between- The DECC and a Pizza Place that could be played, although I agree that there is a dim space in the 1,000 seater zone in this town ... sigh.

--

Slight hijack, did anyone else see the TIAA-CREF commercial featuring "See a Little Light?" I saw it during a basketball game in what must have been 2007 and I remembering thinking ... I know that song, I know that song. Then Bobby Mould kicks in singing. I got a huge rush.  This song was big among the too-cool-for-me upperclassmen on our college radio station when I was a freshman.  By the time SUGAR came out I was definitely on the Mould bandwagon. I'd love to see him.
   
I can't find a video of the commercial but found this analysis.  http://www.splendad.com/ads/show/2134-TIAA-CREF-powerof-org

xkabukislaybaler

about 10 years ago

The 'Matts also did a tent show outside Grandma's; probably Spring or maybe Fall of 81. I had missed the Saints RollerRink show, so me and Flesland (RIP) went down for the sound check.They did about 3 songs before the Duluth PD showed up due to noise complaints. I remember the Warehouse show as pretty tight, but that could just be me.Bob Stinson live was a GOD.

Girl From The North Country

about 10 years ago

OMG a story featuring Monty Wilkes!!!  A name I hadn't heard in too long.

Bret

about 10 years ago

Some Bob Mould from his current tour:

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3DLQi-bbrQ

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krIhelpXySM&feature=related

Swan

about 10 years ago

Wildgoose,

I caught the Bob Mould commercial a couple weeks ago and made stop, think, smile and think of seeing and chatting with Bob and Sugar in England. I have made peace with artists selling their back catalog. It is their work and their decision to do so. I am tired of the cries of 'sell out" by old fans. Many of these artists have little to nothing to show for a lifetime of entertainment, poor or no health insurance etc.. The can make more money of the use of a song than 10 years of touring.
That being said, I do not want to hear a Replacement song used to sell something for an evil company. 

I recently heard a cover version of a song by the Australian band the Church on TV. Not to mention Charlie Parr's Vodafone commercial, Low's Gap commercial, a cover of Suicide Commando's "Complicated Fun" for Target, Hem, Mazzy Star, Richard Buckner, et al. Hell, Dennis Hopper is pimping retirement funds.

Anyways, back on topic, call Westerberg or his management, pitch a Duluth show and get a quote.

your mom

about 10 years ago

Monty's dad still plays bass in a band every other sunday down in rutledge (50 miles south of duluth)

wildgoose

about 10 years ago

You know what might be a good venue, maybe 300 - 500 indoors festival seating?  the buffalo house.  they close down their little barn in winter, but I have done big weddings there in the Fall at least.  It is a good, rustic venue, huge bar and lots of parking.  Lots of parking.  And camping on site which is great for some things. 

Spirit Mountain might work, too.

wildgoose

about 10 years ago

That should be festival -non- seating.

annklefstad

about 10 years ago

I was in Mpls only briefly during the Mats first years, when they were highschool boys. I went to SF and heard Dead Kennedys and Jello Biafra instead. There, the Deaf Club (which actually was the club of the San Francisco Deaf Society or whatever) was a major punk venue, because the deaf kids really liked the punk. They could feel it on their skin. It didn't even get in the way of conversation . . .

tony d.

about 10 years ago

If I recall a tale of Monty's, one night in New Orleans Bob Stinson got hisself throw'd into jail drunk again, so Tommy moved to guitar and Monty played bass as a replacement Replacement. (Monty played in Duluth's Iron Youth--good god, nitrous tank flashback!) Monty made it pretty big in the sound game, "carrying the suitcase" for lots of top acts including (oh the irony) Britney Speares.

scott

about 10 years ago

hey dig out that old mats tape......i would trade you a copy of this:

07-??-82 SAINT'S ROLLER RINK,DULUTH,MN 45m SDB 9 

thanks! 

scott

The Big E

about 10 years ago

Sugar played in Chapel Hill, NC the week I moved there--being a moron, I decided not to go because I didn't know anybody in town.  And shortly after that, they broke up, leaving me bereft.  A couple years later, however, I was sitting around in the basement rathole bar I frequented when some friends came in, talking animatedly about how they were going to see Bob Mould later that evening.  I promptly invited myself along and experienced a little redemption.

purple

about 10 years ago

I love hearing stories about bands I love from locals & so-called locals like me!

Following is a long A story: My first exposure to The Suburbs happened upon a Greyhound Bus from Grand Forks, North Dakota to Duluth, Minnesota. I had visited Duluth once,my dad went to Duluth for work, my mom was in Grand Forks to sell the house.  

Previous to Grand Forks, I lived in Tempe, Arizona. Moving from a Phoenix suburb to a North Dakota nothing town (my opinion at the time; well, now) at age 13 was harsh. 

When asked on this bus ride from Grand Forks to Duluth by some girl who was a Cathedral Student (the school I was going told I was attending)if I knew who the Suburubs were, I answered an emphatic "YES!" Because from my experience, neither Grand Forks nor Duluth HAD Suburds.

purple

about 10 years ago

Then "she", still quite a mysterious person to this day, upheld a " The Suburbs" 1986 album. Kids, that means vinyl. Pretty sure it was A&M because I cannot find the album cover now. 

After seeing the album, on my bus ride from Grand Forks, I had a hope for Duluth. 

Then I was exposed to The Suburbs by my first boyfriend. I saw The Suburbs at UMD Rafters and at Central High School. 

The in 1994 I went to the great "Viva! Suburbs! Live at First Avenue" concerts. For two days. The concerts were GREAT! My friend knew them, but I was basically done after both their shows. IE: pathetic girl in the back of the part who pretends to sleep.

Barrett Chase

about 10 years ago

My first exposure to the Suburbs happened when I was about 8 or 9. My older brother and cousin were fans, and they used to blare the "In Combo" album at deafening volumes. My brother was really into making these ultra-long mixtapes using a pro reel-to-reel deck, and I know that "Cows" and "Drinking" used to make frequent appearances. Alas, the deck was pawned or otherwise sold along with all the tapes. I would kill to listen to those babies now! I still listen to "In Combo" every now and then, but I never saw them live.

baci of the skinny tie

about 10 years ago

Music for boys! BTW Look at the liner notes for "Viva! Suburbs! Live at First Avenue" -- front of house mix Monty Lee Wilkes.

Tim K

about 10 years ago

Monty taught me a ton of stuff about mixing sound "back in the day." Of particular importance was the first show I did for Charlie Sobczak at the Norshor- "demand advanced payment!"

xkabukislaybaler

about 10 years ago

Monty taught me phrases like "Jesus Bald-Headed F*cking Christ."

Scott Pearson

about 10 years ago

I've long sworn I saw the Mats and the Burbs together at Kirby Ballroom in 1982, but one of the guys that was there with me swears the Burbs weren't there. I've been searching for confirmation for years.

john m

about 10 years ago

Mats shows were fun, but Husker's still rocked harder (& Pirner was doing sound).  Orpheum was best venue.

Signed,
Another drunker former or former drunken Emersonian basement dweller.

nicolai

about 6 years ago

httpv://youtu.be/a8D9bCymWXk

Damn, they sounded good.  This is the my favorite 'Mats era.  Was there any hardcore bands in Duluth during this time?  Like '80-'86?

baci

about 6 years ago

Iron Youth, Rat Rut. There were lots of other bands, but these two mostly could be considered "hardcore." I do have an Iron Youth double CD around here somewhere.

nicolai

about 6 years ago

Baci, that's awesome. I'd love to hear that. I take it there was some other punk and new wave stuff as well?

xkabukislaybaler

about 6 years ago

Baci, an Iron Youth Double CD? Psychology Major dance mix? Got any Live Bait sittin' around?

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