“Security” @ Clyde Iron
Did anyone have any trouble with the Security team at Clyde Iron Works during the Trampled by Turtles show Wednesday night? I am not referring to the police, rather the goons in the black T-shirts. I saw them being pretty heavy handed on several occasions without much cause. Just curious if anyone else noticed or had a problem. The show itself was a lot of fun.
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B-man
about 5 years agoI got hollered at for dancing. When I would not stop dancing they (group of 3) came out to the floor to give me a "final warning" of "settle down." A dude with a mullet telling me to settle down on a dance floor at a high-energy show seems out of line. Believe me I know what out of line looks like, I was no where near it. I saw multiple other interactions between the STEALTH team and customers, seemingly for dancing, but I can not be 100% sure. It seems they did not have much training or experience, the only other explanation is they do not understand how a live music event works. It was a good show and I'm sure they (STEALTH) will get better with age.
James
about 5 years agoI saw them kick out two people...one for smoking and one for climbing up on a pole. I think both were legitimate reasons to be kicked out. I have no complaints...they did their job like any other security staff I have seen.
adam
about 5 years agoI personally witnessed no problems.
natalie
about 5 years agoI think TBT may need to inform security at their shows that their audience likes to dance. I saw them perform at the State Fair two years ago and people were getting escorted away for dancing.
No Good Bum
about 5 years agoI think everybody just needs to watch Footloose again.
Blazer
about 5 years agoWell, they seemed a bit heavy handed, but the security to hopped-up patron ratio (~three to a shit-ton) was a little unbalanced. There's always going to be that undertone of fun-loving music goer vs. authority figure stealth person, right? I saw a bit of barking, flashlighting and confusion directed towards some persons backstage. Considering one was the significant other of one of the musicians, I don't think that went over well...haha. I flew under the radar via a thumbs up from Knifey ... thanks dude. You are the man! But hell, what a great show!! Dance on, folks.
RightElbow
about 5 years agoThe security dude nearest me - who looked something like Meatloaf in Fight Club - seemed to be looking to get aggressive early in the night. But by the end, he was clearly enjoying himself. Either he really liked the music too, or it became clear that Trampled by Turtles fans are unlikely to be dicks.
M
about 5 years ago@B-man If you going by your pic is accurate, your dancing totally looked like 'pushing people around' from up on the balcony, and I fully understand why STEALTH told you to "settle down."
B-man
about 5 years ago@M in retro-spect it seems I was premature in my dancing. Once everyone around me got going the problem did not seem to exist anymore. I also heard there was some one complaining about being bumped that left the area once everyone was moving, and she was the impetus for STEALTH to come talk to me. "Pushing people around" is a whole different show, if you knew me you would understand.
Erik_OTE
about 5 years ago"if you knew me you would understand." ? People shouldn't be required to know you, your personality, or your personal concert behavior. I definitely agree with the idea that at something like a TBT concert, or any concert, you should have a general idea of what's going on, therefore, let certain things slide. But, there's a level of respect that everyone deserves at a concert and just because you might feel that you're "in the moment" doesn't mean everyone else wants to be in that moment too.
MB
about 5 years agoWe had a lame encounter with a cop. My friend was sitting outside with a plastic cup of water and ice towards the end of the show. A cop on his cell phone grabbed her cup, threw it out in front of her and gave her back the cup and told her to throw it away. I understand he could not know it was water, but he didn't have to be a dick about it. We are 30-somethings, just sitting there, not being belligerent. He could have simply asked her to throw it out. It felt like he was trying to scare us, like we were a bunch of delinquents.
adam
about 5 years ago"People shouldn't be required to know you..." No, but if you knew B-man, you would understand the underlying context of his statement.
ian
about 5 years agoSaw a security guy freak out for a sec. on a dude who rolled a cig. Had a good laugh on that one.
B-man
about 5 years ago@ Erik_OTE I am not stating that the security needs to have a personal relationship with me. I keenly understand what security concerns were present during this show. I can guarantee I was not one of them. "Pushing people around" is typically reserved for a punk rock/ metal environment where that type of "dancing" is better tolerated. No harm no foul by STEALTH, but they can always learn and get better right?
bflannagan
about 5 years agoLet me preface this by saying that in the past I used to work the door at some pretty tough clubs down is Austin Mn. It can be a hard job. My number one rule was don't make problems where there aren't any. That means you always start on a respectful footing and then you can switch to hardass if needed. If you start at hardass there is no getting back to respectful you are just headed for a confrontation. After the show I bought a beer and walked back into the balcony area. The door was open the room was empty. I was just enjoying the piece and quiet. All of a sudden I hear someone screaming at me from down on the floor in a total I'm gonna kick your ass tone "get the fuck out of there" I don't talk to people like that and I don't accept being talked to like that. I told them so. If they had walked up and said politely, excuse me sir would you mind drinking in the bar we would like to close this section there would not have been any problem. I wasn't bothering anybody, the doors were open, there was no sign saying you couldn't be in there. Just profoundly rude. Next thing I got all 3 goons in my face. I didn't fall of the tuna boat yesterday. It was clear to me they (2 of them at least) were hoping for a confrontation. If a cop hadn't got involved there would have been a real problem. The cop by the way was one of the nicest, politest cops I've ever dealt with. I thought it sucked that he had to come and clean up the mess the goons made. So thanks to officer friendly! I called and spoke to one of the owners the next day. She made all the right noise, not sure if she meant it, hopefully she did. None the less, I don't see another penny of my money going there.
dbrewing
about 5 years agoSo if I get a job working security at Clyde I can get paid to harass hippies and make them stop dancing? Where do I sign up?
Gerrald
about 5 years agoThe world is full of unspectacular people who don't understand what a hippee is. What makes you think you'd be hired?
Lars Lasky
about 5 years agoI have read and looked at all your comments about security at the Clyde by Stealth Security, and let me sort through some of this. I run the security crew out at the Clyde and I've been in this business for 25+ years and I really never see any problems at shows. I agree people should have fun and enjoy themselves, but you have to look at our positions that we have to deal with. First off people being backstage are only to be there with a pass on. It is very hard for us to know who is who sometimes without a proper pass, we (the security team) get our asses chewed if someone is back there that is not supposed to be there, so I don't think it's unreasonable for us to ask "are you with the band or who are you with" and that is not being out of line. On the issue of dancing, dance, but don't act like an idiot and keep bumping into others trying to enjoy the show, our job is to take you from the situation away from the crowd and figure it out. There was one guy climbing the beam. If he falls he hurts others and himself and puts the venue in risk of liability, so yes we act on that and at that point if you're that drunk we are actually helping you. As for the cigarette roller, my people were instructed to watch for the "fun smoke behavior" and also were instructed to ask you not to do it in the building, we have no idea what you're rolling, and really we don't care, but there are others that do "smoke" and then when we tell them to get outside with it they get offended. If the Duluth Police Department sees it you get a ticket, to me weigh it out ticketor please go outside HMMM? That shouldn't be a tough decision. To close this out I think everyone should be respected -- the fans, the security, and most of all the venue. Thanks.
ian
about 5 years agoThe cig. roller was outside, I just thought it was funny because it was very obvious (at least to me) that it wasn't "funny" smoke. Just a guy with a bag of tobacco rolling a smoke.
Jim
about 5 years agoTrampled by Bman at the Trampled by Turtles?! Mosh on, dude!