Blue Laws are Stupid, Post #3

The Duluth News Tribune is reporting that State Senator Roger Reinert has introduced legislation that would allow Minnesota liquor stores to open on Sundays.

Story link: “Liquor on Sunday?

And we haven’t even bitched about blue laws on PDD since September. Too busy drinking to fight for our rights, I guess.

23 Comments

Claire

about 11 years ago

Roger rocks. I am sick to death of having to drive over the bridge on Sunday when I need some hooch -- or, just as bad, having to plan in advance!

I also am heartened that he's trying to restore tax reciprocity between MN and WI.

Elmer

about 11 years ago

It's insane! Must be signs of enlightenment to come. What will I do on Sundays now?

Jake

about 11 years ago

I quite enjoy my weekly sight-seeing drive over to the Hammond every Sunday.  They have the best bloody Mary's there.

Claire

about 11 years ago

No, Jake, Luce has the best bloody Mary's.

lee

about 11 years ago

The Minnesota liquor lobby will fight this every step of the way. It fought allowing liquor stores to advertise liquor prices. It fought allowing liquor sales in other outlets like grocery stores. It'll fight allowing Sunday sales, too.

W.T.F

about 11 years ago

While this sounds good on paper the unintended consequence is that it is much harder for small, independent liquor stores to afford to stay open 7 days a week. The staff you already have will go into overtime so you must hire more staff to cover the one extra day. Generally it doesn't generate more revenue it just spreads existing revenue out over 7 days instead of 6. This in turn requires the business to keep extra staff on and the lights and heat on one more day for the same amount of money. 

In other words it does not actually generate more customers or sales, same customers, same sales just spread over 7 days not 6.  This allows the big box places to get a competitive advantage that often results in the closure of your favorite Ma and Pa liquor store. Most liquor store employees aren't very keen on this idea either as that means they are now going to be working on Sunday.

ian

about 11 years ago

W.T.F - Maybe they should require all stores to only be open for one hour every other week.  This would solve the problem of being overworked and save on electricity ;)

IMO If you own a store and want to be open, you should be able to be open.

It isn't like you would have to be open on Sunday if you didn't want to.

cork1

about 11 years ago

Liquor stores should be open on Sundays and closed on Tuesdays. No good reason to be drinking on a Tuesday, plenty of good reasons on Sunday.

edgeways

about 11 years ago

Sounds like plenty of people in Duluth drive over the Bridge on Sundays for the extra hooch, so I don't think there will be much to complain about along the boarder cities. Further inland... perhaps, but the reality is while I do sympathize with the smaller businesses they are not operating on the same field as all other businesses (minus car dealerships). So small liquor stores get a salary break by being forced to close one day a week, but restaurants, bookstores, art galleries, gas stations, grocery stores, etc etc are put at a  disadvantage because there is no such provision to force them to close one day a week. So, yeah.. I say normalize it all. Either allow liquor stores (and car dealerships) to open on Sundays, or require all businesses to close on Sunday. I'm actually just fine with either one.

Need

about 11 years ago

The Sunday loss for Superior businesses might make for some great competitive price slashing!

Claire

about 11 years ago

Close liquor stores on Wednesday, b/c that's the day wine is half price at Chester Creek Cafe, so who needs to be driving to the liquor store anyways that day?

Terry G.

about 11 years ago

Could someone explain why the Liquor Lobby would be against this? I mean, is it advantageous for businesses to be required not to sell their products on certain days? I'm not a businessperson but it seems like having the option to be open and able to sell your product makes more money than being closed.

Patty

about 11 years ago

Probably the same reason you can't sell cars on Sunday.  The auto dealers don't want to be open, don't want to have that extra day to pay wages and other costs.  So, we have a law that it's illegal to sell a car on Sunday.  This has nothing to do with customer demands; one more weekend day for people to shop and test drive would be easier for most of us.  But, it's not about us; it's about the industry.

Paul Lundgren

about 11 years ago

Liquor stores oppose being open on Sunday because they are terrified about rocking the boat.

If this law were to be erased, then it might make lawmakers consider allowing booze sales in grocery stores, which would indeed hurt liquor stores.

Better safe and closed on Sunday than sorry and getting crushed by the grocery chains, they figure.

Claire

about 11 years ago

I grew up in a state where liquor is available in most grocery stores -- and groceries are available in liquor stores. Didn't seem to be a problem. The liquor stores were like the Litte Stores here -- if you just wanted some beer and chips and dip, maybe a couple of soda pops you'd go to the liquor store, which was also open later than grocery stores. It always strikes me as odd that you can't even buy a snack to go with your hooch at most liquor stores. In NC, beer & wine were available in grocery stores, I think you had to go to a state store to buy the hard stuff. There weren't a lot of state stores around either...

W.T.F

about 11 years ago

@ian, you can make anything look ridiculous by taking it to the illogical extreme. Hardly my point. As some one who has worked in a Ma and Pa liquor store and has friends and family that own/work in Ma and Pa liquor stores I know for a fact that none of them want to be open on Sun. The only exception probably would be from border cities. Sunday comes around every 7 days just like clock work. Is it really that complicated to think ahead?

Paul Lundgren

about 11 years ago

Have you noticed how all the Ma and Pa liquor stores in Wisconsin are begging their local senators to please make a law forcing them to close on Sunday?

Me neither.

Bad Cat!

about 11 years ago

Whether they want to sell liquor on Sunday or not, I say dump the law, as it was created in response to have a "Christian day of prayer" (insert separation of church and state argument here).
If a buisiness owner still would like to take Sunday's off for whatever reason, they are not forced to open their store on Sunday, they are just given the option to be open on Sunday.

W.T.F

about 11 years ago

Paul are you sure? Have you actually asked any of them? If it was mandatory so they all had to close I would bet you would find many who would be all for it. If it is optional it doesn't work because if one is open they all have to be open or they actual lose business instead of having it differed to another day. Keyport does not count as a Ma and Pa. Todays Duluth paper has an article on the issue. They quoted one Ma and Pa who were for it but closed the article by saying several owners/manager who spoke off the record were against the change. For me personally it would be far more convenient if they were open on Sun. I am just being a mouth piece for friends I know in the industry who are against it. For the average worker (not the owner) there is no extra money to be made just more work. Now I am done. PS: Sunday will be here in 3 days better plan ahead.

Will

about 11 years ago

In the past 21 years I've lived in ten states and four countries. And, I've dealt with a lot of different blue laws (on the local, state, and national levels). Those laws have been instituted for (supposedly) a lot of different reasons. I chafe at all of them - religious, business, social order.

The state has no interest at stake and no welfare to protect. Let the business owners make the decision.

Herschel

about 11 years ago

When I lived in Montana and other places that had normal liquor sale laws ( like Europe), I came to equate the acts of buying beer and wine in places like the co-op and grocery as ones belonging to civilized society. Whereas here, baby Jesus or whoever is telling me what to do on Sunday.  I liken this to barbarism.  When Wisconsinites were forced to quit smoking in bars they cried bloody murder, no one thought it possible, but somehow the wheel kept turning.  Now they get to enjoy nice clean Arctic air outdoors with their fags, and leave my lungs out of it. There are myriad other elements which hurt/help any given store's sales.  Creepy clerks, high  prices, filthy walls and floors, body odor.  What's curious to me is the greater theme of picked sides, lines drawn and crossed,  when the status quo is challenged.   Everyone who works Sunday would like it off, if money wasn't an object.

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