Great Food. Bad Punctuation.

For as swanky as Black Water is you’d think management would check the signage better.

50 Comments

adam

about 11 years ago

Brown Water.

c-freak

about 11 years ago

I only enter that place when on a date -- with Hung.

TimK

about 11 years ago

When I first saw that sign, I thought "Martini's? I thought Black Woods was in there- not some place called Martini's!"

Bad Cat!

about 11 years ago

That's HORRIBLE!

Karasu

about 11 years ago

I've been scowling about "Condo's" on the Wieland Block for over a year.

bluenewt

about 11 years ago

And then there's the Co-op, "open everyday."

dropkick

about 11 years ago

Anyone remember the consignment store out near 57th West and Grand called Twice "But" Nice?

I recall it getting an award from the Ripsaw one year for something to the extent of "Most Confusing Use of Quotation Marks"

Paul Lundgren

about 11 years ago

Very good memory, Dropkick. I remember this well because it got past the copy desk and into print without anyone noticing that it said "Strangest Use of Quotations Marks." Nothing like having a typo in your rip on someone's bizarre punctuation. Oops. 

From the March 21, 2001 Ripsaw:

Paul Lundgren

about 11 years ago

This is from the same Ripsaw. It has nothing to do with punctuation, but it is sign related.

Mel

about 11 years ago

I believe the handrails at the Norshor also made best phallus one year. Funny stuff.

Barrett Chase

about 11 years ago

Twice "But" Nice later changed their name to 2wice But Nice, which is still strange but somehow makes more sense.

Barrett Chase

about 11 years ago

Speaking of Twice "But" Nice, here's a great post from 2004 where Starfire wound up with the tape from Twice "But" Nice's answering machine, after they donated it to St. Vincent de Paul. The messages are pretty damn funny.

Paul Lundgren

about 11 years ago

Betty Mae? Are you there? Who-whoo. Who-whoo.

jessige

about 11 years ago

Isn't torke weihn -- you know, the chocolate place that closed on Superior Street -- isn't it a caf'e?

chris

about 11 years ago

I also like their other awning that says "Sushi" and "Flatbread"
very classy.

Sjixxxy

about 11 years ago

On the plus side, at least it isn't written in Papyrus.

Mary

about 11 years ago

Ha, I forgot all about those answering machine messages!   I'll bet I've still got the Bettie Mae one saved on my computer somewhere--that one was my favorite.

girlfromnorthcountry

about 11 years ago

Torke Weinachten was a Christmas/import store that also sold specialty chocolates.  It closed about a year ago after one of the owners passed away suddenly.

Drifter

about 11 years ago

Wasn't the bar in It's a Wonderful Life named Martini's?

vicarious

about 11 years ago

Drifter - Yep, it was. But the punctuation was correct because the bar was named for the owner.

Jim M

about 11 years ago

At least they got most of the pigeon off of it. 

Speaking of signs, I see that 101 Deals in West Duluth got rid of that awesome orange and yellow acid trip thing and replaced it with one that wouldn't look out of place hanging above Stargate.

Bret

about 11 years ago

More phone messages!

Hotrod

about 11 years ago

You guys care that much about punctuation?

Tony D.

about 11 years ago

HR: Punctuation isn't a big deal in emails and informal notes, blog posts, etc. But as far as I'm concerned, when you are  advertising your company, everything you put in print reflects on it: So the apparent lack of care or attention to detail in punctuation could be inferred--consciously or unconsciously--a lack of care in all other areas, such as the products or services one sells or produces. If Blackwater doesn't  care enough to have a properly punctuated sign, I can only assume they probably don't give a damn about the quality of the drinks and food they serve. But hey, that's just me. It's kinda like the menus at Chester Creek Cafe: the design says "greasy spoon" but the prices say "trendy artsy cafe."

greg cougar conley

about 11 years ago

While dining at the arts (art's?) cafe last night, my friends and I decided to have a nightcap at Black Water as none of us had ever been in there.

It looked like some bar you would go score coke at if you were a character in the movie Less Than Zero.

Still, our beer's and scotche's were good and reasonably priced.  I'd take Hung there on a date.

Zoomerang

about 11 years ago

The Red Star is faux swanky.  At least the Black Water doesn't try to do the Roxbury bit in Duluth effing Minnesota.

vicarious

about 11 years ago

I would describe Red Star as "trendy" rather than swanky or faux-swanky.

TimK

about 11 years ago

'Let's eat Grandma!' or, 'Let's eat, Grandma!' Punctuation saves lives.

Barrett Chase

about 11 years ago

Serious, non-sarcastic question: What's the difference between "swanky" and "faux-swanky"? Is there one?

vicarious

about 11 years ago

Good point, Barrett. I guess to me "actual swank" means an establishment does not have to "try" to be swanky; it just IS due to it's history, style and "classiness"...Manny's Steakhouse comes to mind.

I personally feel that Blackwater set out to create the appearance of swank, which doesn't work. It just feels cheap to me. The unfortunate apostrophe underscores this feeling.

zra

about 11 years ago

Blackwater = "Swank" for when Hermantown goes out on it (the town, that is.).

Barrett Chase

about 11 years ago

Let me rephrase: I know what fake swanky is, but I'm not sure I've ever been somewhere that is actually swanky. It always feels like places are just trying, so that they can serve rail vodka and Apple Pucker in a cocktail glass for $9.

huitz

about 11 years ago

My eyes immediately gravitated to the Open sign, which, in that pic, looks like "O pew".

ms dean

about 11 years ago

Arrowhead Supply in the West End specializes in "kitchens and bath's" according to their sign.  

Lee's Pizza, also in the West End, used to have "Hmm... good" on their awning (I may be misremembering the ellipses).  That always amused me because it implied you had to think a minute before declaring their pizza good.

c-freak

about 11 years ago

somebody stole a purse.....

c-freak

about 11 years ago

^ for drifter & barrett.

adam

about 11 years ago

The sucker who very briefly owned Live Downtown Bar told me, "that Slim Goodbuzz said everyone who goes to the Black Water is a shithead. Well, I hang out there!"

Hotrod

about 11 years ago

Last time I went to the Blackwater I got thrown out for hassling George Kessler.  I had fun there though.

girlfromnorthcountry

about 11 years ago

Evil Jeffy reports that the floor of the Blackwater is good for roller skating.  The patrons, however, do not agree.

Cory Fechner

about 11 years ago

Also you cannot wear Starter Jackets into the Black Water. So says the sign at the door.

Question: Who wears Starter Jackets, didn't they go out in early '90's?

Mary

about 11 years ago

Sounds like something on This American Life

oldknifey

about 11 years ago

I still wear my Starter jacket every once in a while. Carolina Panthers.

Barrett Chase

about 11 years ago

It seems like the dress code at Black Water is based on descriptions of possible gang attire drafted up by the Duluth Police Department in 1990.

Mero

about 11 years ago

It's about as swank as you can get, when you're owned by the same people as the Perkins across the street.

beryl k gullsgate

about 11 years ago

It was the eighties maybe when three 'friends' dressed in black pin-striped suits, brown shirts ... suit collars turned up and wide-brimmed felt hats pulled low - retro 1930s - dark shades and all carrying violin cases ... strolled into a then-swanky eating establishment on London Road. Sat down at the bar; ordered martinis (martini's). No one said anything and the bartender watched as he polished his glasses. Customers glanced sideways ... looked at each other over their prime ribs. 

After a sufficient amount of time the three left. 

Cool cats experimenting on human reaction to the absurd or the unfamiliar, but who received little reaction; positive or negative.
I quess that is the definition of 'Minnesota Nice'?

So what would 'Martini's' do ... offer the trio a free beer ... who knows?

Calk

about 11 years ago

Black Water used to have a doorman -- don't know if they still do.

Terry G.

about 11 years ago

Mero, are you thinking about "Blackwoods" instead of "Black Water"?

Lor tab

about 9 years ago

There you go vicarious--its does NOT have an apostrophe when in posessive.  For some reason.  This is an annoying rule but even more annoying when it's (contraction) broken. This is Fourth grade grammar, people.  If you want to hear bad semantics turn on Channel 6 News any time.  get a glance of this or a glimpse at that.  Once I could not even tell who did what--ta whom?  Wish I'd written that down, don't quite have no life enuf.  So when did it change that there is a chance "for" rain rather than a chance of.  The rain is not the gambler. ANYway the apostrophe-s should just be banned in all cases also the word then (misused instead of than").  See article about endangered adverbs.

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