Who decides what songs are used?

This is one of examples of how Homegrown sucks. What about the other bands who have played Homegrown for a long time? Huh Paul. Why don't they get a fair shake at being in your little program? I bet Number One Common would like to have somebody make a video for them. How about Xhaust? 

I'm taking a screen shot of this due to the Censorship policies of PDD.

The music video idea came about because I wanted to freshen up the Homegrown Movie night. The last two CDs were chosen because it makes  the process a little easier for all who have one or two full time jobs while they plan this. All the songs have permission rights and are mastered in a way that will help the filmmakers. By randomly assigning songs we open this up to ALL filmmakers who may want to be connected to the music world, plus it makes it all more spontaneous and creative and (hopefully) fun. Thanks for your input you know who and happy music video making.

Do we get a video of the band playing the song on a DVD?  Or do we get a sound track to make a movie unrelated to the band?
Thanks,
Carla

I would love to work on a new festival. Something more fair to everybody. I just find it sad that Homegrown was created to celebrate ALL THE BANDS, and not just the bands who were popular enough with the cliff dwellers. The video project celebrates only bands who were appoved by Starfire or Mark Lindquist. Homegrown is about everybody not just the selected few.

Actually, YKW, it is well known that Homegrown developed from a birthday party for Starfire, not to "celebrate ALL THE BANDS." The Fest has evolved over the years and it sure seems to me it is still doing that--as the organizers learn from their mistakes and successes, the fest changes a bit every year. Which serves to help keep it fresh. Heck, the film fest and compilation CDs you are bitching about are changes made after Starfire gave away the Homegrown concept, and who better to pick the mixes for those first two disks than two of the guys who helped start it all.

So if you aren't involved, don't go bitchin'--just enjoy the aspects of the weekend you do appreciate and avoid the rest. You'll find it will be a lot easier to dance without that tremendous chip on your shoulder. And if you want influence over how the fest is operated, roll up your sleeves and get on a committee.

Meanwhile, your paranoia over the local music scene and PDD is growing tiresome. You feel  you can directly confront Paul on this site, yet don't have the guts to use your own name. Mayhaps it's time to give the pipe a little rest.... 

Sorry for the rant, other PDDers, but I'm also tired of people tearing down positive things folks try to do in this community because they would have done them differently. A good debate is one thing, but this kinda crap does no one any good.

Our wine bar is open that week end if a singer songwriter wants to play there, they can bring me a CD

I'm thinking about making an epic music video about how much the Homegrown Music Festival sucks.

Y'know, like John Landis did with "Thriller." 

Or Spike Jonez did with "Sabatoge."

Just watch what the superior scenesters are doing. We will have the most new acts new acts from Minneapolis. I know there are people working on a project to counter act your rock the block show. Superior will be more aupror when it comes to the new sound.

cliff dwellers elistists

Wow, cry me a freaking river.

Maybe homegrown should allow a bands/artists to only play once, then are forced to retire, that way we only get teh fresh new shit and "you know who" will be happy.

As for the music video...maybe we could get every track, be it basement 1-track, live show, studio recording, whatever of every artist/band who has ever played homegrown.  Then we could draw from these.  I nominate "you know who" to go about collecting them.  That way it would be fair to the bands.

fuck video. i'm making a homegrown musical!

YKW has to be joking right? i feel like i'm in a time warp with all the "we're Superior!" and cliffdweller stuff, like it's 1915 or something. the historical society should use this thread as an example of how weirdly ongoing the "rivalry" is between the ports.

hmmm...i just would like to know who the president of the pizza luce scene is? and what about the rex scene? or how about the carmody's scene?...or any other music venue scene? i didn't know that there was a voting process for each individual scene....i'm still looking for those damn secretive clubs in duluth....i still want to go dancing....but on a side note....i think the video thing is a great thing....it's about time bone apetit gets a video....and c-freak....lets start a musical....thank you all for your time....oh and i want to be a president....where should i get the sign up for the ballots??? craig where are the ballot boxes? i want to be president and then take everyone who voted for me dancing at one of those secret clubs.....heiko      p.s.  just so you know who wrote it....not an assumed name

In some of my songs I have casually mentioned
The fact that I like to drink beer,
This little song is more to the point
Roll out the barrel and lend me your ears:

I like beer. it makes me a jolly good fellow.
I like beer. it helps me unwind and sometimes
it makes me feel mellow... 

(makes him feel mellow!)

Whiskeys too rough, champagne costs too much, vodka puts my mouth in gear.
This little refrain should help me explain as a matter of fact I like beer.

(he likes beer)

My wife often frowns when were out on the town
And I'm wearing a suit and a tie.
Shes sipping vermouth and she thinks I'm uncouth
When I yell as the waiter goes by:

I like beer. it makes me a jolly good fellow.
I like beer. it helps me unwind and sometimes
it makes me feel mellow... 

(makes him feel mellow!)

Last night I dreamed that I passed from the scene,
And I went to a place so sublime.
Aw, the water was clear and tasted like beer...
Then they turned it all into wine.

I like beer. it makes me a jolly good fellow
I like beer. it helps me unwind and sometimes it makes me feel mellow 

(makes him feel mellow)

Whiskeys too rough, champagne costs too much, and vodka puts my mouth in gear.
Aw, this little refrain should help me explain as a matter of fact I love beer!

(yes, he likes beer)

Oh look at me I'm heiko, the lord of the door to the Holy Land of Pizza Luce where only the elite bands get to play. Bravo! Bravo!

Hell, I am going to sign in as the king of the Carmody scenesters, Craig, you suck, as does Number One Common.  They have been playing the same five songs, poorly, since I knew them way back in the twentieth century.  The reason that Duluth bands get more music into the Homegrown is that there are more of them because most of the people with enough wherewithal to actually produce good music have also saved enough money to move out of Superior.  But don't worry, at the rate you are going you should be able to come up with a whole concert of the worlds smallest violins playing the worlds saddest song.  I will bring you some cheese, it is Wisconsin after all.

See! Evil Jeffery rips on the Superior bands. This is what Duluth Cliff Dwelling Scene really think of the other side of bridge. They hold their noses up high and say "poo poo" to Superior. Perfect Day Duluth is the fixture for this Superior backlash. Hark the truth!

Craig, thanks for your truly entertaining posts. Can I suggest decaf. I actually think of Duluth-Superior as one metro area, but now I have to rethink that. My wife is from Superior. I think I might be sleeping with the enemy.

Personally I am thinking of doing a video for Drive Away, love that song, listening to it in my car right now.  Ironically I remember when Hot Rod was living in Superior, does that make him a member of a Superior band, from that other side of the bridge, oh dear, oh deary, deary, dear.  I have known other good Superior bands as well, they just didn't try to Nationalize themselves as such.

So, the "Superior" scene is bands playing the same crappy metal that they ripped off from Slayer ten years ago, only louder.  I don't see it.  Maybe I am jaded, the last time I was at a concert in Superior there might have been some distortion caused by all of the tobacco tar built up in the amplifiers.  Face it, Superior bars could get the music if they wanted it since they have the advantage of lower drink prices and a better collection of bars in a smaller area.  The problem is that there is no one worth a crap promoting the music scene over there and as a result the scene suffers accordingly.  It also seems that they are always trying to push the same played out crap on us as we heard the week before, and the week before that.  Get some variety, some talent, some venues that can bring out a crowd of more than the regular chronic alcoholics and then we will talk.  In the meantime I will just disregard you and your self-important lanyard every time I see you slumming at Quinlin's discovering that even a shit bar in Duluth can pull a bigger crowd than what could have been a decent bar in Soup town.  I have been in this town and in this town's scene longer than you have, I have lived in both Duluth and Superior and I have seen what a difference adding a little class and discretion to an establishment makes.  Instead of having garbage interspersed with something tolerable, having something tolerable interspersed with genius makes all of the difference when it comes to promoting a scene.  When you want to make the Superior scene into everything "hardcore" and can actually sign up a band that can produce sounds that can be considered pleasing to the ears, let me know.  I will be there.  In the meantime, go to the Keyport and buy some wine to go with all of that Wisconsin cheese.

Dear Craig,

You are an idiot. I don't know if you realize this, but I am assuming you don't, based on your behavior in this thread and the numerous others you have shat upon. 

Here's the deal: there IS NO difference between Superior and Duluth when it comes to bands and music. There is only "good" and "bad." Unfortunately, you seem to enjoy music made by people who tend to fall under the latter heading. (The Surfactants are good, but surely they don't benefit from the backing of a total troglodyte with the spelling ability of a canned ham.)

Craig, instead of cooking up some totally imagined Superior-Duluth "rivalry" to explain your inability to do anything at all to help your favorite bands, perhaps you should consider this: you are currently nothing but a buffoon. Try being nice. People will be nice back. Simple equation. N+N=N. You are being a "D," which stands for "dick" or "douche," depending on personal preference. And we all know N+D does not ever equal N.

Maybe, instead of trying to be an asshole to everyone, you should go throw on some mook-rock in the background, sit down at your computer, and redirect your copious amounts of internet energy into developing that hideous travesty of yours that you call a website. Seriously, what the fuck IS that thing? Am I supposed to read it, or what?

In summation, Craig, you are a fucking turd, you don't know shit about dick, and you don't know when to quit. Hell, even Danny has learned when to stop Doing Duluth once in a while. Take a cue from him and know when to say when.

Or, you know, keep whining and being a clown. Whichever.

Note to PDD Administrator:  When comment threads devolve into second-grade bickering, they should be CLOSED.

This is so tiresome.

yea! 52 comments! New Record!

I suppose you're right, Jay. Carla was referring to At Sara's Table/Chester Creek Cafe in the Taran's Marketplace building, 1902 E. Eighth St., Duluth.

Oooo, this is entertaining me at work. Keep going, bravo!

i'm writing a song about this shit! thanks for the material. my new band "tier 17" will kick ass! we will play not only duluth/superior but cloquet/procter as well and smash all rivalries!

because i used to *shudder* live there. in a trailer court!

The more I think about it, the more awesome a Homegrown Battle Royale seems.  Make it so!

I made the mistake of thinking Craig R's rants against PDD as guest host of DDD this week might be somewhat amusing as I do busy work today, maybe he'd even give some good reason for this irrational hatred he has against people simply b/c he lives in Supetown and they don't. I could barely stand listening to him rehashing all the same shit he's always posting here on PDD, and turned it off after about 3 minutes. Craig, why the hate? It's a beautiful world out there, the sun is shining, spring is on the way -- why don't you take that chip off your shoulder, take a deep breath, and enjoy life?

I actually thought Craig was kind of funny. He is truly nuts and he really hates PDD. This is a quote from his rant:
 
"...Perfect Duluth Day website, which I hate. I hate it. Ah Craig, do you hate the Perfect Day Duluth website? Ah, The answer is yes, I do, you know. I hate it! I hate the Perfect Day Duluth. Why? Because there is nothing but cliff dwelling elitists who use that website."

I love how he asked himself a question in the third person. Does he consider his pal Danny a cliff dwelling elitist? I think Danny uses PDD and so does Craig. Others have said it, but it should be repeated, this guy really does have a huge chip on his shoulders.

Holy shit. When you listen to that podcast, you really start to understand how truly stupid that guy is. He can't even get the name of the website he's railing against correct. And he keeps randomly yelling things.

I get it now: he's just a low-IQ loser who wants attention. Commence Operation Ignore Craig.

for someone who hates pizza luce and pizza luce elitest's so much i wonder why he eat's breakfast and/or sometimes lunch there almost everyday. hmmmm.  and since i saw him there today playing with a blackberry/ iphone i can only assume he posts to pdd from there as well.   hmmmm hypocite?   i guess the stomach wants what the stomach wants....

Thanks for listening everyone!

wow, checked out the podcast.

Provides a good insight into his character.

is that jitterbug in the photo on ddd? poor thing!

anger brews anger

Paul, I'm indifferent to your indifference.

YES Starfire, I'd be thrilled to buy a t-shirt proclaiming me to be an elitist cliff-dweller. Too cool

I'll second the Elitist Cliff-Dweller t-shirt idea.  Perfect for wearing to Homegrown this year.  Although I won't be setting foot in Luce.  Not because I have an irrational hatred of the place, but I just figure I won't be able to get in.  I tried last year for the Black Eyed Snakes and didn't even get in the vestibule.

Actually, i think this kinda stuff is exactly what Craig is looking for. He and Danny seem to just get off on messing with people and stirring up shit. Not sure why. 

It's pretty obviously just a cry for attention. and, whaddya know, it's working. I guess that's what happens...you go into a room and shit in the punch bowl, you get attention.

We are so close to 100 comments. please keep the hate flowing! 100 comments! We can do it!

We just need 9 more hateful comments about the following:

1. Me eating at Pizza Luce
2. Homegrown
3. Me
4. Danny 
5. Cliff Dwellers
6. Cliff Dwellers who are Elitist
7. My Guest spot on DDD

Cmon, Duluth! We can do it!

I got a better idea.  I was wondering if there is anyone who has any video clips of the bands that videos are being sought for?  If anyone has video they would want to share that would kick ass!  Personally I am looking for any video of Hot Rod singing...

Has nothing to do with making a video, I just think he is cute and want to paste his pic all over my walls.

leave it to Doogla.

natch.

Oh, and the nip is a button too, arrrr rated.

Liz, great idea, hope they take you up on it!

What a wonderful idea Liz, I would love to take you up on it. email me at [email protected] and we can work out the details.

I was born and raised in Superior. I've been forced to look at your stinking cliff homes for far too long! On a bad day I'm even forced to smell the farts coming from your elitist paper factory! Like Craig, I'm forced to work in Duluth. It's not my fault I can't get a decent job in Superior. But I make my money and I bring it back to Superior. I used to spend my money at places like Lucé and Carmondy. Now I boycott all Duluth businesses! I've even boycotted homegrown for the past few years, as it's run buy those damn cliff dwellers!!! Keep your damn festivals outta my town! 


Now Craig, I understand your enjoyment of Lucé's delicious breakfast sandwiches. They are so dam irresistible as is the free internet. Homegrown is also a very irresistible Cliff Dweller run entity. In fact, there a lot of things that are irresistible about Duluth.The Surfactants are the only Duluth band I can stand as well but I've even boycotted them! But we must stand strong my brother. We must take their money and bring it back to our motherland, Superior. This is no joke. If you're serious at all about your hatred of all things Duluth, as I hope you are. Then join my boycott. Let's build a better Superior!!!! Vote with your pocketbook!!!!

Duluth Boycott List:
- Websites and message boards (ie. perfectduluthday.com)
- All Duluth retail stores and restaurants 
- Publications
- Homegrown
- Duluth bands
- Music Producers
- All institutions of higher learning that practice reciprocity.
- Sports Teams
- Spirit Mountain
- Tourist spots
- Radio Stations
- Duluth Photo Guild
- Bridges
- The North Shore
- Film Festivals
- Fond du luth Casino
- And any other Cliff Dweller run/supported entity!!!!!!

This is a call to my truly superior Superior brothers and sisters!!!!! Boycott!!!!!! Boycott!!!!!! Boycott!!!!!! Boycott!!!!!!

Spend your time and money in Superior!!!!! Join Craig and I as we lead the revolution! Visit localm.com for all of your superior music and information. Boycott Duluth bands! Don't book them in Superior!!! Keep them on their side!!! Duluth isn't all bad but it's time we make a stand against Duluth. The line has been drawn and we must pick a side.  Someone please start a moreperfectsuperiorday.com website so we can have a better message board. And remember, just stay out Duluth and Minnesota, period!

Rhode Hero!!!!
The Superior Revolution!

ps: Heiko, Paul, Cfreak, Evil Jeffy, Starfire, any all you other Elitist Cliff Dwellers, stay outta Superior or there will be heck to pay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SUPERIOR > DULUTH

Yeah!  Free Coasters!

Hey! We should bomb the two bridges between Duluth and Superior! And cut all the phone lines while we are at it.

Yes! Bomb the bridges!!! 

Heiko, you are a liar! There is no way that Craig would go into Lucé, let along buy anything from you idiots!! It goes against everything that he stands for! And it would make him a horrible hypocrite and unscrupulous liar!!! Stop making up lies, you cliff dweller!! We don't want acceptance into your stupid club!! You will never see Craig or I at your stupid Lucé because you suck!!!! We've got much better things going on in Superior. Stop with all your lies!!!!

Evil Jeff, we were made in the image of god, not stupid sea creatures!!! We are much better at making music and listening to it in Superior!!! You just think you're better because you are so stupid!!! You need to read the Bible and not that stupid Cliff Dweller bible but the real bible!!!

The Rhode Warrior!!!
SUPERIOR>duluth

No Name Please - Craig would never eat at Lucé!!! Are you crazy? He hates Lucé and all that it stands for more than I do!!! Why would anyone who hates something so much turn around and support it???? The answer is they wouldn't!!!! You cliff dwellers are all the same!!! So stupid!!! Take a clue from Craig and get not so stupid. Learn to stand for something for once in you life like Craig does! This is what true Superior honor is!!! Viva la Superior!!!!!!

The Rhode Warrior!!!!
SUPERIOR>duluth