Tobacco pipes.

Wildgoose is a cop

Are they celebrating Hitler's birthday? Silly hipsters.

Now, that would be nice. Too bad we don't have a good humidor in this city.

Absurd?


Rybak told MPR's Morning Edition that white, middle-class Minnesotans are buying marijuana "with a little wink and a nod, thinking it has nothing to do with anything. It is literally paying for bullets that kill people."


http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2010/05/27/rybak-gangs/



The distribution and abuse of illicit drugs pose a serious threat to the safety and welfare of Minnesota residents. Illicit drugs are transported into Minnesota for distribution and through the state for distribution in other areas. While most of the illicit drugs available in Minnesota are transported from Mexico and southwestern states, Minnesota also is vulnerable to drugs smuggled across the U.S.-Canada border, particularly marijuana and MDMA. Mexican drug trafficking organizations (DTOs), criminal groups, outlaw motorcycle gangs (OMGs), street gangs, and local independent dealers distribute drugs within the state.


http://www.justice.gov/ndic/pubs1/1158/

Thanks Wildgoose, 

Are you the emperor with no clothes? 

Oh, btw, who launders all of that drug money in from mexico? Why is it you? or is it.......

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-29/banks-financing-mexico-s-drug-cartels-admitted-in-wells-fargo-s-u-s-deal.html

"Wachovia admitted it didn't do enough to spot illicit funds in handling $378.4 billion for Mexican-currency-exchange houses from 2004 to 2007. That's the largest violation of the Bank Secrecy Act, an anti-money-laundering law, in U.S. history -- a sum equal to one-third of Mexico's current gross domestic product."

But don't you worry wildgoose! we're all HIGHLY aware that "products" originating from the state of Minnesota are extremely dangerous and pose serious health risks to our communities, especially the blatantly obvious connection between glass blowers and dangerous drug cartels.  

lets leave out; alcohol, opiates, prescription drugs(ssri's, opiates, etc), amphetamine, lithium, methamphetamine.

Almost forgot.  Alcohol and prescription drugs.  I agree these are often much worse than pot for the economy, health and just about anything else you might come up with in most cases.  In my original comment I stated that I agree in legalization of Marijuana and integrating hemp back into our agricultural system. For me the most important difference in this context is that alcohol and prescription drugs are legal products in America today. Marijuana is not.

It's been hijacked by Sheen.

Wildgoose...

"used to"?

Funny how the lines continue to be blurred between what is "theorized" and what is an indisputable fact.  Of course you are the fly in the ointment, playing devil's advocate is fine, so is representing the other side, that is if logic can be applied to your argument.  

2-3 bowls a week? that's weak.

Also, how does my green thumb- which my "habit" tends to give minnie high fives to- have anything to do with the government sponsored trafficking of narcotics in the united states? 

Really, sustaining your own supply of herb is like growing your own aloe vera plant or having a goat that you can milk.  Your attempt to correlate the average stoner with the blood spilled in mexico is like saying the average hobby farmer/community garden project is collectively supporting monsanto ;)

Hmmmm wonder what socioeconomic bracket has the money to afford large amounts of cocaine?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CyuBuT_7I4

Moral/ethical spin? Wouldn't that be the reason why it's still illegal? 

"Legal ramifications," I wonder what those would be in California with a license? 

Geesh, in the realm of a glass shop trying to have a show, you have haters and people who don't want others to thrive.  Then, you have the crowd that says "well I wish it were different! but gee golly things justa' aint gonna change!" Sounds like the democratic base that voted for the noble peace laureate. Do it better, PDD veterans.

"Legal ramifications," I wonder what those would be in California with a license?"

You might have been onto something there if this were California and not Minnesota.

As it stands, the legalization referendum in CA is on shaky ground, as is the one they're trying to pass in WA.

I'll agree that we're getting there, but we ain't there yet.

I'm not hating, man. I'm a realist.

Zra - I am in California, reeeeeeallll shaky out here......rumble rumble.  Cops been cracking down lately! haha

Zra, 

1. I don't smoke out of bongs.

2. *this* is a discussion about whether or not homegrown herb is correlated with drug cartel violence in Mexico.

3. I just moved to the coast of california from Duluth, MN.  (uhhhh you know minnesota!) Geesh I'm soooooo ripped, I don't even know what state I'm in! whoa! I'd better just lay off the drug cartels herb man, that stuff is definitely laced with something! 

4. Ever heard of mendocino county? The cartels up there are armed with papers and freshly cured flowers. Dangerous indeed. They also grow vegetables and other medicinal herbs which are known to increase the mind, body and spirit.  You wouldn't think cartels are into that sect of wellness philosophy but, it's true.

5. Why defend an illogical argument that you did not purport?

yawn.

you're not getting it. until you stop this and this, and deal with the organizations who're dumping millions into politician's pockets to keep the stuff illegal, you're not going to get to do this, because in their eyes, it's all the same thing.

The strangle hold the pharmcorp and righties and turdies all have on us is breathtaking, maybe one day we'll rise up with fists and...

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=get+right+back+to+where+we+started+from&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

anybody but Minnesota's own perennial presidential prospective...Chris Wright.

If you want to change things, you gotta get in with the politicians. You wanna get in with the pols? Representing your cause just isn't enough. You can walk in armed to the teeth with every scrap of verifiable factual scientific, medical, and feel good yuppie holistic data that supports your cause but if you don't like like them, you're as good as invisible. You gotta look like them. You gotta act like them. you gotta smell like them and you gotta talk like them. given the difficulties the average activist minded pothead has putting on anything other than his shoes correctly, that task would be daunting at best.

okay, that last part there was a bit of a jab at the stereotype, but you get the jist...

yah...stick your feet in your birkenstocks...

the sad part is that i'm completely pooh poohing any and all of my head shop cred by taking the realistic break...

meh. i wasn't using it anyway.