Health care – Your thoughts!

I want to hear what everyone thinks about health care. Good discussion from both sides of the issue. Have fun!

16 Comments

Danny G

about 11 years ago

I am for taking care of your health.

K

about 11 years ago

Thanks for thinking of me so much!  What I really want to know is what are percieved thoughts around healthcare reform.  Benefits and Disadvantages.

vicarious

about 11 years ago

One thing that confuses me: 

Right now many low-income people don't have health insurance. In one of the leading proposals, if you don't have health insurance you will be fined, thereby further degrading your ability to obtain and pay for health insurance.

Tim K

about 11 years ago

The disadvantage will be if healthcare reform ends up being like the Medicare part D reform that happened a few years ago- i.e., not really reform. I'm concerned that a law mandating coverage without a public option will only line the pockets of the insurance industry. What does an insurance company do? They take your premium and then try to figure out how to not pay your claim. That's pretty much it. Wouldn't it be easier for every one to pay into a single system that was prohibited from denying coverage? Part of the discussion should also focus on lifestyle choices, etc. Can we hold processed food manufacturers' feet to the fire, too? We are all in this together, folks.

makm

about 11 years ago

I think this issue is very complex and that the things that make it complex are not being discussed.  End of life care is very expensive, very sick babies are very expensive.  In this country we take care of these with extreme medical interventions often with littel regard for spirituality and dignity.  

We do not have enough primary care docs now to handle the people that do have insurance and this problem will get worse as thosecurrently uninsured become insured.  This was to be addressed by Medicare but instead of providing more payment for primary care, they just decreased payments for specialists, putting a burden on the hospital systems.  

Currently Medicare pays about 30 cents for $1.00 of care, Blue cross pays about 90 cents for a dollars woth of care and the uninsured pays about 1.20 for a dollar of care.  


These are some of the things that will make getting solid health care reform a reality.

mevdev

about 11 years ago

If we can afford war, we can afford healthcare.


Single-payer.

We MUST at least have regulations and a public option!

pH

about 11 years ago

Price control via universal schedule of set prices. Without that, we are only rearranging profits amongst connected insiders.  The unsustainable burden remains. To me, it's less critical whether we pay in through taxes, insurance premiums, or direct to provider.   

Provider billing is presently forced into a catch-as-catch-can:  overcharge whenever possible to cover underpayment losses elsewhere. Two wrongs to make a right is inefficient at best, corrupting at worst. Set the price.

Note that Medicare Part D did not address price. Instead, it explicitly forbids govt price negotiation. Hmmm that's strange, why would we want that?  At last check, politicians and big money are still pretty snuggly, so not expecting a big breakthrough just yet.

Rougement

about 11 years ago

The whole healthcare debate is irrelevant until we get campaign reform and politicians are prohibited from accepting money from anyone except private individuals. With Max Baucus and his slimy brethren we can easily see how a few bought and paid for politicians get to define the whole debate. Of course, the vast majority of politicians won't vote for campaign reform, it's something that would have to be thrust upon them.

Todd Gremmels

about 11 years ago

Get rid of health insurance companys and give the money directly to local hospitals.

Peace

rediguana

about 11 years ago

Single-payer is the only option currently being discussed that would cover absolutely everybody and significantly lower costs by reducing duplicitous waste and inefficient delivery of care.

The "Public Option" is NOT single-payer. It will increase administrative costs by adding another layer of bureaucracy to the system. Every other country pays at most half of what we do for health care; why should we put in place something that will make us pay even more?

The latest version of the Senate bill does not even contain a "Public Option."

In fact, the main point behind HR 3200 and its subsidiaries (i.e. the "Obamacare" bills)is a monumental bailout of the private insurance industry, which has lost significant profits with the layoffs of the recession. The bills all have as their central feature a mandate forcing everyone to buy some type of insurance, even if it's really crappy, useless catastrophic coverage, with more or less expansion of Medicaid and subsidy for lower-income folks. But even with the subsidy, many people won't be able to afford insurance--and will face a $750 tax fine for not having it. In essence, it criminalizes the victims of our criminal health insurance system.

More information here: http://pnhp.org/blog/2009/09/07/on-the-status-of-health-reform/.

Todd Gremmels

about 11 years ago

2% medicare overhead.

20% insurance company overhead.

Peace

Todd Gremmels

about 11 years ago

Criminalizing people that do not have health insurance is ludicris. The only reason for this whole thing is a bailout? I can not even believe the fact that this government lets these companys run this country, while people that are trying to make a difference pay more?

Peace

Nate

about 11 years ago

Requiring people to have bare-minimum healthcare is nit unlike requiring people to have liability car insurance. It will only work, though, if people have an inexpensive option(public).  Nobody should make any money off insurance. It's funny that people are ok with being forced to pay car insurance to companies but are not ok with paying the government.  I would gladly pay 100 dollars a month for my insurance for myself or 250 a month for me and my son if noone made a personal profit off of me.  Why do republicans trust that the government is doing what us in their best interest when they detain and torture people but don't trust them with much else.  The military has great insurance so obviously it can be done. There are no death panels for policemen or senators. Glenn beck and limbaugh and palin are insane and more damaging to the country than McCarthy or Hitler ever were.

Dave Sorensen

about 11 years ago

We need a single-payer system like every other Western Democracy. We do not need health insurance, we need health care. Mandating that we must buy a faulty product from private insurers is a terrible idea.

Resolutionary

about 11 years ago

Single payer was compromised before the start of the reform effort even started.  The public option was compromised to make the bill bipartisan.  The deal was sweetened for the insurance companies and drug companies Republicans are trying to protect.  We've compromised away coherent policy and real reform, yet there is zero Republican support.  They're only interested in stopping reform.  So write a new bill that's actually good for me and you, jam it through, then in the midterms see how Republicans do.

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