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Ted Nugent and Dogsledding

Reading of yet another rant by Nugent at a political rally (and an NRA gathering is a political rally) gave me a quick return to a recent trip. I spent my honeymoon in Quebec City early in January 2011. (Note: if you ever get the chance this is a great city to visit and is somewhat Duluthian in history and character.) But for a day trip my wife and I did a day long dogsled outing. We got to ride and have a driver slide us over the meadows and through the woods. It was quiet enough to carry on a conversation with the driver.

My driver was a recent college grad who had taken a political science class in his last semester where they were able to use the 2010 U.S. elections as real-time case studies. I will never forget being deep in the woods in the Quebec woods with snow sifting through the trees and having this young man exclaim “we could not believe that you (Americans) would have a political candidate pose with a gun to promote his campaign.”

When we got back to our hotel we saw the news that Gabby Giffords had been shot in Arizona.

From gun control to climate change there is a huge percentage of Americans who are motivated by fear of losing guns, rights, money, freedoms.

Maybe the more we can educate our neighbors about how this country is viewed by the outside world, like a sled-dog driver in Quebec, the sooner we can put fear behind us.

17 Comments

Tom

about 2 years ago

Don't worry, they took care of that Arizona gun problem by loosening restrictions on guns.

Tom

about 2 years ago

And neighborhood watchmen carry them for our protection now too.

Herzog

about 2 years ago

Nuge is a hell of a shot, I said I liked the man's shooting, never said I liked the man.

Swan

about 2 years ago

In the US, gun violence is on television at all hours of the day but nudity is taboo. In the rest of the civilized world, depictions of nudity are fine, but gun violence is abhorred.

Swan

about 2 years ago

The Day Ted Nugent Killed all the Animals

ndawg

about 2 years ago

If you want to be like the outside world, Canada or Europe, do us Americans a favor and move there! It's our constitutional right to bear arms. The United States was founded on this principal. You can't even own a handgun in Canada (unless you are law enforcement). I support any candidate that supports the NRA and my 2nd Amendment Right. Bad guys don't care about gun laws; they're going to have them no matter what the law says. I legally carry a firearm every day to protect my family and myself.

BadCat!

about 2 years ago

"If you want to be like the outside world, Canada or Europe, do us Americans a favor and move there!" This country was founded on the belief of making a political system that worked for the people, and not the other way around. They left British monarchy so they could let the people vote on what they wanted. If you say "love it or leave it," you go against the basic principles that this country was founded on. "Love it, or vote for a different policy and hopefully you'll be in the majority."

baci

about 2 years ago

from Wikipedia: "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." This infers that the right to bear arms is to insure "a well regulated militia." The very professional and highly trained members of the national guard (and our police) represent the "necessary" militia. In any case, "well regulated" means well regulated, not highly available. Do we really think that if some external invading force shows up, our personal handguns and tricked out semi-auto assault weapons are going to accomplish anything? A case could be made that the influx of these weapons is in itself an invasion that threatens our national security. Weapons designed solely for the purpose of killing people should not be legally available. Weapons for hunting are a different matter. All the hunters I know are responsible and safe practitioners of reasoned recreation and subsistence harvesting. But go ahead and write me off because I'm obviously a commie.

Rougement

about 2 years ago

I'm not from this country. Where I grew up, you had to obtain a license to own guns which involved a serious background check and installing a gun safe, bolted to a wall and inspected in advance by the police. You can still go down this route to buy a shotgun, rifles are harder to get a permit for and handguns are illegal now. Here are a few brief observations, to expand on this subject fully would mean writing a book. I get tired of people like the poster above, "If you want to be like the outside world, Canada or Europe, do us Americans a favor and move there! It’s our constitutional right to bear arms. The United States was founded on this principal." Yes, the Constitution is an important document, but it's over two hundred years old, much has changed in the interim. Because of this, interpretation is everything and leads to one person arguing with another over which interpretation is correct. What are "arms"? Why can you own a handgun but not a RPG? Who decides? What was the intent? To protect us from a tyrannical gov't? With small arms? Really? Good luck. Because the articles of the early U.S. are so sacrosanct it seems they can never be changed substantially. It's also pretty apparent they're not working too well. The politicians in this country are some of the most mendacious, corrupt bastards I've ever encountered because they can get away with it. There's certainly no barrier in the constitution barring them from making money through graft. They write oppressive legislation (SOPA, Patriot Act, pick your poison) fund secretive agencies to intercept your phone and email to keep you safe, lock people up for years without due process, etc. etc. Because of all this, I completely understand those who wish to keep a bunch of weapons around. I get it, Congress is full of fucking snakes. There is an alternative: change the system. How to change it is a matter for debate but clinging to a 200-year-old piece of paper as justification for owning a bunch of guns isn't going to help much in the face of the U.S. military, the CIA, FBI, NSA, oppressive legislation and lack to access to representation. If they want you, they'll get you and that shotgun you keep in the closet won't do shit to stop them. So, a few suggestions: Stop politicians from taking bribes from special interests. They answer to the voters exclusively. Not Exxon, not ATT, not Boeing, not GE. Those guys can certainly have their say but throwing cash at politicians is destroying this country from within. Repeal every last line of this oppressive legislation written in the name of freedom and counter terrorism. Citizen's United was a giant kick in the balls for every single citizen in the U.S. Most people shrugged, muttered about it and that was all they did which leads me to my final point. As long as the population is under-informed, apathetic and divided, this will continue and it will get worse. Owning a .45 might gives you warm fuzzes but it won't mean a damn thing in the greater scheme of things.

sides.of.the.city

about 2 years ago

Wikipedia is Wrongapedia. Baci is misquoting the second amendment. He leaves out a crucial comma. Which is why you should never trust wikipedia to be agenda-free. The actual text places a comma after "Arms" (Militia, State, and Arms are all capitalized in the original), which makes all the difference. Baci would be right but for that comma. What that comma does can be taken a couple of ways: first you could read it as enumerating two rights, one to a militia, and one to the right of the people to bear arms. Or it might mean in order to have a militia the people have to have the right to bear arms. Take your pick, that's what judges do (and in the end we're all judges.) Now, what are arms? This is where the Supremes really start making things up as they go along. Are arms what was available in 1791, single shot firearms and cannon, knives and swords? Or does the definition of arms change with the times, allowing for revolvers, rifles with magazines, hand grenades, bazookas, surface-to-air missiles, F-16 fighter jets, and the H-Bomb? Well, the Supremes say the first two are okay, along with a few more steps up the ladder, but when the caliber starts getting too big they draw a line. And it's a totally arbitrary one. Remember those two kids busted during the RNC in St. Paul in '08 for having Molatov cocktails in their basement? They were charged with having "unlicensed firearms." Where do you go to get your firebomb license? Just some thought to stir the pot. A child of Duluth, now living in St. Paul.

baci

about 2 years ago

@sides.of.the.city In fact, there are two versions of the 2nd amendment, one "As passed by the Congress" and another "As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State." Wikipedia does make this distinction. That is why, when I coded the link in my comment, I linked to the portion of the Wikipedia article which discusses the difference between the versions. By no means do I consider Wikipedia to be some form of solely authoritative information. As always in these matters, application of the thoughts laid down hundreds of years ago is left for contemporary interpretation and modern application. Of particular interest, and germane to the Nuge's chest thumping, are contemporary interpretations of the "rights of the people." Pot stirred.

sides.of.the.city

about 2 years ago

You sunk my battle ship! Thanks for pointing out the link, baci, I'm duly shamed by my newbie post. I'm poligeeking out on the Constitution, what better use could I make of this gray Saturday? Except for the kickass Ragu I'm going to start in a bit.

baci

about 2 years ago

One comma, just a little bit of ink. I never meant to sinking your battleship, I'd rather float your boat. I like Ragu and thanks for posting. Keep it up, They all tell you here, I need fact checking.

wingsofjudas

about 2 years ago

I think most mushers in MN carry guns to protect themselves.

consuelo

about 2 years ago

You should not ever take anything Ted Nugent says seriously. Ever.

in.dog.neato

about 2 years ago

Tell that to the people who do take what Ted Nugent says seriously.

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