Loud & Angry
By adam on Aug 30, 2010 in Current Events, Overheard in Duluth
“Councilor Kerry Gauthier said he plans to support the proposed ordinance, especially after witnessing the effects of K2 on a neighbor boy who ‘got loud and angry’ after smoking the stuff.”
Uhg. Just uhg.
Well, every single person I have ever seen consume alcohol becomes “loud and angry,” so we better make alcohol illegal ASAP.
Let’s make coffee illegal too…since caffeine can make some people louder and more easily agitated.
If a person “got loud and angry” about the ban, would he then change his position?
They should pass a law that makes it illegal to smoke anything except the real stuff! Keep it real, keep it organic!
Wasabi should also be banned. It’s been known to make many an unsuspecting Scandinavian “loud and angry” when they were expecting something bland instead.
Elden…based on the back and forth emails between Fedora and myself on this issue, the answer to your question is “no.”
Fascinating: synthetic marijuana that has the opposite affect of marijuana.
I don’t hold the product in high regard (pun not intended), but this whole “banning” campaign stinks of “let’s find me an easy issue to help me get reelected.”
I wonder if any one of our councilors can honestly say he or she has never been too loud after a few legal alcoholic drinks….
Lewis Black has made a career out of being loud and angry. Perhaps we should ban him, too.
Out of curiosity, does anyone have a decent argument in favor of K2 aside from generic arguments about why the city banning its sale would be ineffective?
How does one smoke a large mountain?
(sorry, I tried to keep it to myself)
@andy: No. I don’t have a decent argument FOR the stuff. I’ve never tried it. I have no interest in trying it. To have an argument FOR this stuff defeats the purpose of having an argument against the act of banning not just this product, but ANY product. If you have to justify the benefits of anything that has the potential to be banned, then you are basically saying that you agree with the potential of banning items…you just need a reason to do so.
I’m just against the banning of a legal product…especially since the argument that Gauthier and Fedora seem to be making is that this stuff is harmful to kids. Yet, the ban would effect everyone, adults and kids. Sorry. I’m 35 years old. I am not a fan of some d-bag sitting on the city council in my Northern Hillbilly town telling me what I can and cannot purchase.
Meh
Danny,
I’m super against my local “d-bag” (classy term, yo!) legislating against me buying meth or kid-porn.
Your arguments are waaaaaay too vague.
THE SKY IS FALLING! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! WON”T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN! DO SOMETHING -- ANYTHING*
Coming soon to a city council near you -- a ban on all CAPS posts on the internet.
Tony is right--this whole thing strikes me as an effort to manufacture a mini-crisis in order to inflate Fedora’s profile. It seems quite plausible that the product is dangerous to a troubling percentage of the tiny population that purchases it, but I have a suspicion that a primary effect of the publicity over the proposed ban has been to alert a significant number of slackjawed potential customers to its existence.
The more corrupt the republic, the more numerous the laws. ~Tacitus, Annals
What’s next? Are you going to regulate how many sheets of toilet paper I can legally use to wipe my ass?
Way to waste council time on a non-issue.
Every time they mention banning this crap, Last Place gets a boost in revenue from rubes buying it up.
Sounds like a bunch of crap to me, but hey, to each his own. If the real stuff was legal and regulated we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
Well, I’m rarely angry but I’m pretty loud. Guess I’m partially ban-able.
Big E is right — Todd Fedora is hoping to raise his profile, perhaps in positioning himself to run for mayor. Thus, his “it’s for the kids” proposal to ban a product in local stores that’s completely ineffectual. Anyone can buy it elsewhere or online, I am sure. I never even heard of this stuff before Councilor Fedora started complaining about it.
But the whole council (minus Anderson) voted to ban the stuff, not just Fedora. In fact, isn’t the topic of this thread in regards to Gauthier’s ridiculous reasons for wanting to ban “fake weed”?
The only thing the DNT article/news coverage did for me was to make me want to go buy some and see what all the fuss is about. The ban was passed, but doesn’t go into effect for 30 days…time to stock up! hahaha
Lola, that is exactly the unintended consequence of all this public outcry about the substance. People are going to want to check it out, duh. There’s no such thing as “bad” publicity.
I have dealt with a child that has been in treatment over the summer for a drug addiction. It is an alternative drug that we really have no idea what it will do to us or our children in the future. I know that it just may do more damage then the real thing in the long run. I know that it alters thinking and decision making and I don’t need that to deal with along with everything else my child has been through and put me through. One less thing in my eyes the better … just coming from a mothers point of view.
Patricia, I honestly feel for you. Really I do. However, why is it that every example of how horrible this stuff is involves kids yet the ban is across the board. The ban has nothing to do with keeping children from purchasing this stuff, but banning it entirely. The ban assumes that adults are unable to make their own decisions even though every example of why the ban is being put into place involves children.
Everyone on the city council voted for the ban because to vote no would have been political suicide.
Thus the reason politics is not only ineffective but actually harmful.
Well, Fedora probably lost my previously very loyal vote over this issue…along with plenty of my friends in the neighborhood. We shall see how this plays out.
Alcohol is sooooo not dangerous. Have you not seen all of the wonderful drivers on the bridge coming back from superior after 2am? I mean what skill, blood alcohol levels rising and trying to beat the blue and white.
P.S.
Why does DNT choose to use disinformation to get its point across?
“CANNABIS CRACKDOWN” -- I doubt if the man was smoking the best of the best indica he would be getting into high speed chases. Thanks DNT for blurring the lines yet again. THE STUFF IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING CANNABIS!
I’m quaking in my boots.
Lots of my friends smoke the stuff all the time. Good guys too, usually supervisors and management position people. It “was” a legal way for an honest guy to catch a buzz in a pretty harmless manner, or thats what it came across from my point of view. I dont smoke the stuff myself, gotta stay sharp you see, but there has been a definite lack of axe wielding or seizures in my immediate circle, even though over half of them partake. I’m probably on the wrong side of this one too, so go ahead and let me know why…
“Don’t worry officer…it’s legal.”