Comments on: RIAA Accounting http://www.perfectduluthday.com/2010/07/13/riaa-accounting/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=riaa-accounting Duluth Minnesota Blog and News Sat, 25 May 2013 10:49:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Brian http://www.perfectduluthday.com/2010/07/13/riaa-accounting/#comment-23546 Brian Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:38:03 +0000 http://www.perfectduluthday.com/?p=17945#comment-23546 Down with the bloody big head! Down with the bloody big head!

]]> By: ericswan http://www.perfectduluthday.com/2010/07/13/riaa-accounting/#comment-23521 ericswan Thu, 15 Jul 2010 06:17:07 +0000 http://www.perfectduluthday.com/?p=17945#comment-23521 These numbers are somewhat close but reality is worse. This assumes everyone in the band shares the publishing equally (a rare instance), or that the band even writes its own material. Big name producers often get 4-6% of a record. And as WTF said, the devil is in the accounting. Tracking and getting paid for sales is the hardest part and the big labels will do everything in their power to make it as difficult as possible. Counterfeiting was and still is rampant; lots of CDs sold are outright counterfeits from overseas sold with or without the complicity of the record label. The age of digital downloads has made it even tougher to make any money. Itunes keeps a large piece of that 99 cents per song; the artist sees very little and other digital distributors are even worse. It used to be possible to make a modest middle class living through touring, merch and music sales but that is rapidly eroding to the point where a lot of players are simply throwing in the towel. And don't even get me started about studios and the recording business. These numbers are somewhat close but reality is worse. This assumes everyone in the band shares the publishing equally (a rare instance), or that the band even writes its own material. Big name producers often get 4-6% of a record.

And as WTF said, the devil is in the accounting. Tracking and getting paid for sales is the hardest part and the big labels will do everything in their power to make it as difficult as possible. Counterfeiting was and still is rampant; lots of CDs sold are outright counterfeits from overseas sold with or without the complicity of the record label.

The age of digital downloads has made it even tougher to make any money. Itunes keeps a large piece of that 99 cents per song; the artist sees very little and other digital distributors are even worse.

It used to be possible to make a modest middle class living through touring, merch and music sales but that is rapidly eroding to the point where a lot of players are simply throwing in the towel.

And don’t even get me started about studios and the recording business.

]]> By: brian http://www.perfectduluthday.com/2010/07/13/riaa-accounting/#comment-23511 brian Thu, 15 Jul 2010 00:26:59 +0000 http://www.perfectduluthday.com/?p=17945#comment-23511 When I started playing (guitar) in college, the drummer in our band told everybody else the drummer always gets a bigger cut ... because drum things cost more. He fooled us for a short time. But in the end we showed him, cuz we never made any money to divide up. When I started playing (guitar) in college, the drummer in our band told everybody else the drummer always gets a bigger cut … because drum things cost more.

He fooled us for a short time. But in the end we showed him, cuz we never made any money to divide up.

]]> By: W.T.F http://www.perfectduluthday.com/2010/07/13/riaa-accounting/#comment-23508 W.T.F Wed, 14 Jul 2010 23:17:58 +0000 http://www.perfectduluthday.com/?p=17945#comment-23508 Paul, while your math is correct the trouble is getting the record company to admit that you made a million or sold a million. There is a endless stream of stories about discs being printed in the night and sent out the back door and never accounted for to the artist. In other words they get 0% of those record sales. I believe it was Mitch Mitchell of the Jimi Hendrix band who said that if he knew then what he knows now he would go into the music business with a lawyer in hand and a machine gun in the other. Paul, while your math is correct the trouble is getting the record company to admit that you made a million or sold a million. There is a endless stream of stories about discs being printed in the night and sent out the back door and never accounted for to the artist. In other words they get 0% of those record sales. I believe it was Mitch Mitchell of the Jimi Hendrix band who said that if he knew then what he knows now he would go into the music business with a lawyer in hand and a machine gun in the other.

]]> By: TimK http://www.perfectduluthday.com/2010/07/13/riaa-accounting/#comment-23494 TimK Wed, 14 Jul 2010 18:20:56 +0000 http://www.perfectduluthday.com/?p=17945#comment-23494 The Albini article really cracks open the mythology. Too many younger musicians think they are going to strike it rich and get famous if only the right producer/A&R guy/agent discovers them. It's kind of like pushing inner city kids into basketball with the thought of making it in the NBA. Sorry boys and girls- it probably is not in the cards. Instead of trying to get famous, you should work on your craft, learn some basic business skills and envision a future of doing what you want to do and hopefully making almost a middle class income. Making music for a living is a blast, but it's really hard work. The Albini article really cracks open the mythology. Too many younger musicians think they are going to strike it rich and get famous if only the right producer/A&R guy/agent discovers them. It’s kind of like pushing inner city kids into basketball with the thought of making it in the NBA. Sorry boys and girls- it probably is not in the cards. Instead of trying to get famous, you should work on your craft, learn some basic business skills and envision a future of doing what you want to do and hopefully making almost a middle class income. Making music for a living is a blast, but it’s really hard work.

]]> By: mat http://www.perfectduluthday.com/2010/07/13/riaa-accounting/#comment-23489 mat Wed, 14 Jul 2010 17:49:14 +0000 http://www.perfectduluthday.com/?p=17945#comment-23489 I'm surprised the drummer gets an even share. Seriously though... Steve Albini's article on the record industry is jaw dropping. http://www.negativland.com/albini.html I’m surprised the drummer gets an even share. Seriously though…

Steve Albini’s article on the record industry is jaw dropping.

http://www.negativland.com/albini.html

]]> By: Paul Lundgren http://www.perfectduluthday.com/2010/07/13/riaa-accounting/#comment-23488 Paul Lundgren Wed, 14 Jul 2010 17:31:07 +0000 http://www.perfectduluthday.com/?p=17945#comment-23488 Well, 13 percent of a million bucks is $130,000; 100 percent of 50 bucks is 50 bucks. Well, 13 percent of a million bucks is $130,000; 100 percent of 50 bucks is 50 bucks.

]]> By: W.T.F http://www.perfectduluthday.com/2010/07/13/riaa-accounting/#comment-23480 W.T.F Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:04:58 +0000 http://www.perfectduluthday.com/?p=17945#comment-23480 Looks like the best bet is to stay real small so you don't need a personal manager or a business manager or a lawyer or a publicist of a manicurist or a bass player or drummer or singer or a record label. Looks like you would make more money standing on the corner with your guitar case open for tips. Like Mr. Entertainment said (Sammy Davis Jr.) "Show-Biz darling that's two words. Everyone loves the show and everyone hates the biz!" Peace on you. Looks like the best bet is to stay real small so you don’t need a personal manager or a business manager or a lawyer or a publicist of a manicurist or a bass player or drummer or singer or a record label. Looks like you would make more money standing on the corner with your guitar case open for tips. Like Mr. Entertainment said (Sammy Davis Jr.) “Show-Biz darling that’s two words. Everyone loves the show and everyone hates the biz!” Peace on you.

]]> By: B-man http://www.perfectduluthday.com/2010/07/13/riaa-accounting/#comment-23467 B-man Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:42:52 +0000 http://www.perfectduluthday.com/?p=17945#comment-23467 Always buy your CDs and other merch at the show if possible, that way more money goes directly to the band. Always buy your CDs and other merch at the show if possible, that way more money goes directly to the band.

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